COLORADO SPRINGS — Ken Harrison, CEO of WaterStone and volunteer chairman of Promise Keepers, is joined by Steve Farrar on the latest episode of “On the Edge with Ken Harrison.” Together they discuss the downheartedness of depression, experiencing God’s loving discipline, and how to build spiritual muscle.

The podcast, available in both audio and video form, can be found on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Podcast listeners can also receive a challenging weekly devotional that will inspire them to put their faith into action.

Steve Farrar, known for his candor, his humor, and his commitment, is a fierce advocate for his mission to equip men to be the spiritual leaders of their homes and churches. He earned his doctorate from Dallas Theological Seminary and he has pastored several churches. In 1990 he founded Men’s Leadership Ministries and has been speaking to men around the world ever since.
Farrar has spoken at hundreds of men’s conferences and events, and has authored 20 books for men, including the bestseller, Point Man. For twenty years he has taught a weekly Men’s Bible study in Dallas that is attended by several hundred men and it is continually updated on-line.
Additionally, Farrar serves on Promise Keepers’ Pastoral Advisory Board.

Highlights of Farrar’s interview in the podcast include:

We can find comfort knowing that God will never abandon us in our darkest valleys.

“God puts us in the wilderness where we can’t see any way out and even if everybody’s wilderness looks different, we can all reflect on this feeling. Maybe you’ve lost your reputation, your marriage, or your money, and you feel that you’re stuck with no way to recover. But, Psalm 23:4 tells us, ‘Even when I walk through the darkest valley, I will fear no evil, for you are with me.’ As Martyn Lloyd-Jones recalled, every valley and every wilderness has a beginning, middle, and an end. You may not be able to see it at the time, but God is not going to leave you in that position forever.”

“It is important to pray for a teachable heart in these moments because we don’t want to miss what God is trying to teach us in these valleys. When I was experiencing my depression, I would pray to God, ‘Lord, don’t let me miss what you are teaching me. I don’t want to flunk this class. I don’t want to have to go back to summer school three years later. I want to learn, Lord. Would you show me what you have for me?’”

God’s discipline upon us yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness.

“If you are listening to this podcast and you know you are in the toughest place you’ve ever been, know that the Lord is with you, even if it’s because of your own sin. Our Lord is sovereign and he is shaping you. He will discipline you, as we know from Hebrews 12 – ‘If you’ve never been disciplined by the Lord you’re not a child of God.’ Every son that he loves is disciplined and although being disciplined is not fun, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness.”

God uses our setbacks to build spiritual muscle and it is our responsibility to take this newfound wisdom to aid others on similar journeys.

“God uses our setbacks to build spiritual muscle. Sometimes we get fatigued and worn down and we don’t know if we can make it. I remember during my depression I wouldn’t ask God to help me get through the day – I would ask him to help me make it to lunch. I would seek him and his guidance to get through the next hours without falling apart. I had never been like this in my life before, but it was exactly what I needed. God put me in his gymnasium and he was working me out.”

“It is important to note I didn’t talk about my experience with depression for a while because I was embarrassed that I went through it… I recommend that for anyone struggling with depression that we love them, disciple them, and help them figure out their gifts. We need to let them know how God made them and encourage them to get on their way.”


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KEN HARRISON is the host of “On the Edge with Ken Harrison,” a podcast building godly people for a better tomorrow. The podcast, available in both audio and video form, can be found on YouTube and your favorite podcast platform, including Apple and Spotify. The podcast also offers listeners the opportunity to receive a challenging weekly devotional that will inspire them to put their faith into action.

Harrison serves as CEO of WaterStone, a Christian Community Foundation whose clients donate over $1 million per week on average to build God’s Kingdom. For nearly 40 years, Waterstone has assisted givers in supporting their favorite charities by crafting customized, innovative giving solutions that empower donors to prioritize income, minimize taxes and optimize giving.

Ken started his career as an LAPD street cop in South Central and then spent nearly two decades in commercial real estate nationally and internationally. After successfully building and growing his company, he sold the majority interest to the second-largest commercial real estate company in the world while continuing as CEO of U.S. valuation and chair of international valuation.

Ken volunteers his time as the chairman of Promise Keepers. His mission is to provide executive leadership and strategic direction to the ministry while inspiring men to be bold, humble and ambitious about their faith.

Ken has been married to his wife, Elliette, for 29 years and they have three children.

Harrison’s newest book, The Rise of the Servant Kings: What the Bible Says About Being a Man, is available wherever books are sold.